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There should definitely be a "terminology" section in the falk article. As far as shades of meaning, invective, lesbain. So can "lawyer" or "ant". And the word dyke is used, according to the article in question, " A terminology lesbiah or link to one in this article would be ok with me though. Wyss4 August UTC Image posted by User:Klonimus The following has been copied from the Administrator's Noticeboard to document why this image is inappropriate for the article.
Odd, this seems like a helpful user, so this is only a "he talkk I guess. In what way is image "abusive"? Theresa Knott a tenth stroke25 August UTC It doesn't look "abusive" but it doesn't look like good-faith, either. If those women are lesbians I'm Martha Stewart. I know some editors want to "push the envelope" on the inclusion of images in WP but including something pulled straight from a contemporary porno flick is not my idea of helpful. It's "abusive" because anyone seriously editing this sort of article should realize that some of its readers would be annoyed by it to put it mildlyfor all the above reasons, never mind the model's silicon enhancement.
I mean, obviously it's acting, as Calton says, but I don't see why that necessarily makes it less valid as a depiction. I don't see why lesgian shouldn't be considered good faith. But aside from that point I don't know if it's a helpful addition talkk the article, either. To be fair, if offensiveness is an issue, as Wyss seems to suggest, it seems a lot more moderate than a lot of the images we have on sex-related topics.
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Everyking25 August UTC That's no depiction, it's a fantasy, created for entertainment purposes. If the image had been included in the article's pornography section Tali likely would have deleted it without comment. Offensiveness is not the issue btw. For example, I have no problem with this it's the context, content, placement and caption. Anyway I only wanted to note that it happened.
Wyss25 August UTC Well, I wasn't thinking about the fact that it was produced for entertainment factoring into the equation. Anyway, I think the basic point is that while it may not be the best choice of image for the article, it's not really a good faith question or something that needs to be raised on AN.
If he starts revert warring over it, OK, then maybe. Just revert and give reasons for the removal. For an article about the specific porn flick in question or about pornographic films in generala few still images might be appropriate. For an article about the broad topic of lesbians, two actresses faking it in a lrsbian film may be stretching the 'fair use' provision past its breaking point. It could be fairly used in an article that discusses the movie it's taken from, talkk even lebsian in an article that discusses the depiction of lesbian sex in mainstream pornography.
No, really. I'm sure there've been many women's studies dissertations on the subject. But on Lesbian? It's unnecessary, beyond fair use, and distracts from the article.
Wyss25 August UTC I certainly would not mind a lesbian erotic image, and it would not hurt the article, either. Only this image is not lesbian - it is a wanking phantasy. And until somebody writes Fake lesbian sex for the entertainment of heterosexual males maybe together with Fake stupid gay males for the entertainment of heterosexual males I don't really think we have a good place for that image.
I'm not saying that this needs a playboy pinup, but I'm saying that I don't really see the point of any of the porn here, and if you're going to remove some of it, why not all? Would you approve of the Playboy image if it were a lithograph? The general article about lesbians already contains a woodcut from a few centuries ago.
I suppose that somewhere there is a photo or drawing of "21st century lesbians" making out or whatever, with none of the problems listed above, that would be helpful and maybe even work-safe for this article. I mean really.
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I also think the start of the article should not start off by saying "homosexual" in a pretty clinical POV but rather be somethng along the lines of "women who feel romantic or sexual attraction to other women" I dunno. What do other editors think? The rationale is available at Talk:Depictions of lesbian sex in pornographyand I suggest that discussion of the move, as well as further discussion of the appropriateness of various images for that article, be directed there.
The Uninvited Co. Presently, I'm incorporating an art history type of survey of erotic lesbian themes into the article, covering both "high art" and porn. Later, I'll tackle the "sociology" around the issue. Contributions are welcome if the topic interests you. I don't see how a book can be prosecuted. I'm guessing this is just a grammar error. Should be author was prosecuted or book was banned. Anyway I've clarified it considerably.
This re like a history book Let me guess, plagarised from Britannica? Why don't you either suggest some concrete improvements or be bold and make some improvements yourself? Wyss21 February UTC Lopez Lopez's character is said to be lesbian except as I've read she ends up with "the guy" in the end. I don't think that really is indicative of lesbian behaviour.
That's more like it. Batzarro8 January UTC Then you might like to add her name to the bisexual article if there is an opportunity to do so. Dysprosia8 January UTC Two objections to the intro First, I attend, from time to time, gay youth conferences as a presenter and the girls there are clearly lesbian and just as clearly not women. Second, I find it misleading to use the term "homosexual.
Why not keep it simple, and avoid the semblance of circular reasoning, by being a bit more explicit. I am sorry Dysprosia, but the argument that a particular formulation has been around a long time is not, by itself, sufficient. Haiduc30 March UTC I think the intro is rather sparse - compare with gay or other sexuality articles. What about girls who obviously aren't "women"? Also IMHO that is not a minor edit, in changing the terms.
SouthernComfort1 April UTC Not that user, but it might be because if one is going to use queer community terminology, sex and gender are differentiated. Female refers to biology. Woman is an identification.
An article on lesbians, another queer identification, that of women who like only other women, should be specific. Well, aside from the issue that the term "woman" is not "queer" specific and the issue of gender identification lesbiwn an entirely different matter altogetherarticles should ideally be neutral and use neutral terminology. Haiduc corrected the problem by clarifying the intro by including the term "girl" since "woman" is not exactly inclusive.
I just don't get it, men are hard wired to wanna watch lesbians do eachother. Females are hardwired to make gay people their best friend Glocky22 May PDT That topic will be covered in the article Lesbianism in erotica. See "Move of pornography section" above. They just want the money. Tho also kinda funny, really Thanks It is true: all lesbians can fly.
yalk This wasn't the only one they hit either. Now, I don't have any direct proof of this, but a hunch tells me that "Muff Muncher" isn't derived from the Isle of Lesbos. Taok appears to be the work of See what I've edited. I've done quite a bit of reading on that topic and I've never encountered the point of view that lesbian sex is OK if it prevents premarital heterosexual sex. WikiGnome12 July UTC this lesban obviosly wrong the talmud traticate shabat 6th chapter says clearly that it is not permited.
Velma of Scooby Doo I noticed that this article doesn't mention Velma. But in Scooby Doo article it is briefly mentioned. The former states that in the play version of the story as opposed to the filmthe main characters are indeed involved in a lesbian relationship. The latter states that it as a "claim that is not true. If anyone is familiar with the play, go ahead and update the appropriate article.
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Thanks much! Porlob5 September UTC I also just added the "Contrdadict-other" tag to draw attention to the inconsistency. There has still been no one familiar with the play comment on what the verdict is, although on the Children's Hour talk someoe said that the play directly dealt with lesbianism, but didn't specify if the couple in the play was actually in a lesbian relationship or merely accused of being in one. But I did read several times that lesbians flocked to the showings and read the maximum into the script - understandable.
I've done some editing no other deletionsand left my links scattered within the edit as I have run out of time and I am do not know how to do inline cites. If you have any problem with what I have done, please feel free naturally to do what you think is necessary and tell me what the consensus and I will read when I drop in again. It is highly unlikely that somoene would be exclusively attracted to males emotionally, sexually and romantically, but exclusively to females aesthetically.
My editing of the use of Perogatives I tried to explain why Dyke is kesbian always a "bad word". I used the parallel of the term nigger to make it clear to those who haven't witnessed it for themselves or haven't used the word themselves in these ways. Perogatives that are claimed by the targets, and then used within the community as a tool of empowerment, a way to forcefully drive shame from our taok identity, is not just a good thing, but a very real thing.
If you find this unclear or doubt it, please post here and let's see how many "Dykes" like me respond. But Lesbian Community so very different, intricate and complex that I oesbian we need a section discuss the past, present and evolving future of Lesbian Community. Feedback welcomed!
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I'd suggest a picture of Martina Navratilova instead, but tennis lsbian a contact sport. I don't like marginally relevant lssbian added to articles just lfsbian prettify them rather than add substance. The "contact sport" section is unverified. There's a difference between saying "many lesbians like contact sport" and saying "many women who like contact sport are lesbians"; to my mind the picture carries the latter subtext.
We all know there are lots of popular organized lesbian sports but it's unhelpful to throw into this article a picture of a bunch of girls playing a contact sport, with the overwhelming implication that they're lesbian, without knowing if they are or not. Yeah, they likely are but it needs to be supported. Likewise mentioning other sports. I've seen girls' volleyball and basketball leagues in some places which were made up mostly of lesbians, but seen others which were mostly straight girls.
Many folks who identify as lesbian would not identify themselves as exclusively attracted to females, but don't identify as bi-sexual and it creates a binary excluding trans people. Also I would lesbiwn that wiki should use female bodied to again be open to the inclusion of trans individuals.
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Possibly the tone of the intro could be changed to say that lesbianism can be defined to make the statement less definitive. Anything else could be original research. Gwen Gale3 December UTC I agree with Gwen, the proposed change and new material would require solid cites from reliable sources. BTW Gwen, you've done some great work on this rcently, thanks! While there is takl broad spectrum of expression in human sexuality, your interpretation seems technically accurate, ie, a woman who is not exclusively attracted to other women would be considered bisexual or hetero.
It is exactly the exclusivity of attraction that defines a lesbian in this lesgian. That said, one can mention on this talkfor example, the usage over at Myspace Can't cite that in the article though, since it would require interpretation is Myspace a sufficiently broad sample and so on and thus be original research. Gwen Gale4 December UTC The dicdef above for homosexual lists bisexual as an antonym of homosexual, so accordingly lsbian dicdef does seem to strongly support lesbian as an exclusive term.
Therefore, since dropping the term exclusively from the introduction would clash with an lesbiab dicdef, I'd say, keep it. I think it's accurate as-is. Gwen Gale4 December UTC Diversity box removed I've removed the lack of diversity box from the media section only because there is such a paucity of comparable lesbian material movies, TV production, widely distributed books and so on in non-western culture that the skew in the real world is simply reflected in the article. I'd say that editors who think there's a lack of cited material from other cultures should put some in.
I do know some Bollywood productions lightly hint at lesbian themes, for example, but I think it's wholly misleading to readers to slap talj warning about lack of diversity in the article when it seems to mirror a corresponding lack of representation of this topic in non-western cultures. I'm sure there are more, but these are the most glaring omissions I could think of.
FredNash So add them? Although she once indulged in a well-publicised affair with a woman, she told me that definitely did not make her gay. In coming out as a lesbian when I did lesbjanI faced hardship, violence and prejudice. It was no fun growing up a lezzer in a working-class housing estate in the north-east of England, where the expectation was to marry a local lad and have a brace of. Going on TV in to talk about lesbian pride and liberation led to me losing my job, getting sexually lesbizn in the street, and generally being treated like a freak by those that recognised me.
I was told by a hetero-sexual woman who I considered a friend at the time that she would rather I did not babysit her daughter. I recall one such moment. I had met my lezzer friend Lesban in a pub after work, and we were deep in conversation when the inevitable happened. Tall pointed out that if he was the alternative, did he blame leshian
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Every woman in that bar burst out laughing, with several telling me how they wished they could give up men and live happily ever after. What I do know is that such women almost always end up married to men and having kids, and living a conventional life. Occasionally they will dye their fringe orange, put on a slogan T-shirt, and a rainbow coalition march in Brighton.